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Airbag jacket demo

Postby tfdodo » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:20 pm

this looks quite fun.
test vid at MCN: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2009/February/9-15/feb1209-air-bag-motorcycle-jacket/
manufacturers site http://www.heliteuk.co.uk/page7.html
Think I'd actually prefer one of the horse-riding gilet-style oneshttp://www.point-two.co.uk/products.html over my usual kit, but either way...
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Good news: they take a 30kg tug to activate, so my first thought - how much of a git you're going to look after forgetting to unhook when you get off the bike - is unlikely. :)
Bad news; but you'll probably pull the bike over instead :(
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Postby Billy Burns » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:34 pm

There was a piece about this on the main BBC news including a demo.

Very interesting and compared to the price of a good quality jacket the price, £595. is not bad. I'm assuming these jackets are also good quality.

The two questions I had were how much for the jacket and how much for the replacement cartridges. Both now answered.

Obviously educating bike riders how to avoid being in that awful position in the first place is the priority.

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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby ozzzie » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:00 am



Not exactly a scientific test though, is it? If it has genuine benefits, then perhaps it should be encouraged. I think we have to be very cautious about mandating things like this (unless of course, the Government will pay for them).
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Postby WhiteBeak » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:16 pm

It must be better than not having one... but;
It wont protect you if you plough into a tree
It wont protect you if something ploughs into you

Only of use if you leave the bike and OMG the pisstake would begin at every BAM group ride I can just imagine the scene now...engine off, sidestand down, rider dismounts and..kapoof ! I wonder what sort of noise it makes?

Do motorcycle bad injuries happen whilst the rider is on the bike or away from the bike? Anybody know because that is an important issue with a device like this

I can't help thinking that a bike airbag makes more sense:
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Postby ozzzie » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:48 pm

WhiteBeak wrote:Only of use if you leave the bike and OMG the pisstake would begin at every BAM group ride I can just imagine the scene now...engine off, sidestand down, rider dismounts and..kapoof ! I wonder what sort of noise it makes?


If it's like a normal airbag...BANG! It would scare the life out of you.
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Postby WhiteBeak » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:59 pm

Where do you draw the line?
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Postby ozzzie » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:31 pm

WhiteBeak wrote:Where do you draw the line?


I think as far as some people in Government are concerned, at a metal safety cage on four wheels.

I think that is the key point though, where do you draw the line? Will there come a point where safety interferes with enjoyment (too bulky to move or go out in the summer sun) and personal choice? I remember reading about this argument ocurring when helmets were made compulsory (way before my time of course).
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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby Horse » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:41 pm

tfdodo wrote: Think I'd actually prefer one of the horse-riding gilet-style oneshttp://www.point-two.co.uk/products.html over my usual kit,


Why not have a bike-specific one?
http://www.eggparka.com/english/main.html
http://www.eggparka.com/english/lineup/index.html
http://www.eggparka.com/english/lineup/mc/index.html

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No idea of prices.

Dainese have something similar:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/ ... =EPI-99178


Interesting that Point2 are advertising 'protection' (video). I wonder how that tallies with the CE requirement for 'protectors' and clothigng construction - otherwise you can't usually make that claim without one or both.

HitAir have this page of info:
http://www.eggparka.com/english/data/shogeki/index.html

I'd also be wary of a £600 jacket without a bloomin' good warranty . . .
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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby tfdodo » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:33 pm

let's revive this a little while on, with links to Hit-air again with a lovely-looking minimalist design a bit like a Crewsaver lifejacket (which no-one imports yet.. but it's early days), and also an English company with a feasible-looking product and the worst website I've encountered this year...
Also youtube footage from Wild'n 'wicked, Hit-air importers, that purports to be of a client wearing a Hit-air in an RTC vs car that he walked away from. Impressive if so [and also notable as another classic sucker-trap for advanced motorists to avoid ! ]

anyone any more experience of these ?
I'd still rather miss things in the first place - but that didn't stop me spending quite a few hundred quid on a set of Crowtree leathers i hope never to use in earnest, and it wouldnt stop me getting a set of these to go over the top of them [and/or my textile kit] if they were light-ish [1.8 lbs anyone ?] and functional...
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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby tfdodo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:11 am

BOING. Helite representative visiting Freewheelers soon. So - have any BAM members invested in an airbag jacket or vest ? Which one, when, how much, why that one, what's it like to use (routinely), and have you ever triggered it ? Anything else of interest ?
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Postby Horse » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:04 pm

ozzzie wrote:
WhiteBeak wrote:Only of use if you leave the bike and OMG the pisstake would begin at every BAM group ride I can just imagine the scene now...engine off, sidestand down, rider dismounts and..kapoof ! I wonder what sort of noise it makes?


If it's like a normal airbag...BANG! It would scare the life out of you.


Sadly (if only for the lack of comedy value), they're compressed gas rather than pyrotechnic :)

IIRC, TRL (actually itswas probably in TRRL days) found that for a bike-mounted airbag to work really well required something to prevent the front of the bike 'dipping'.

One of the main benefits IMHO of some 'air' products (whether built into jackets or over-vests) is the neck collar, with the advantages of a Leatt brace without the 'I've already crashed and they gave me this' look ;)
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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby Horse » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:09 pm

Sorry, the website www.helite-motorcycle-airbagjackets.co.uk cannot be found.

Let him know ;)
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Re: Airbag jacket demo

Postby tfdodo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:32 am

Horse wrote:Sorry, the website www.helite-motorcycle-airbagjackets.co.uk cannot be found.

Let him know ;)


Done, meantime try http://www.airvest.co.uk . A couple of glaring errors* on the website if you look closely , for the pedants among us :) , but gives you an idea. And talking of ideas - the TT version puts the integral CE-spec back protector on the outside of the airbag rather than the inside, to spread any concentrated impact loads (think kerbstones, or pointy bits of motorcycle, for bikes or jump poles for horses) across most of the area of the airbag. Makes sense intuitively. Thoughts ?

*let's start with an inflation time of "less than 0.99 seconds"... quicker to blow it up yerself... :eek: . And don't get me started on the "sub 100ms inflation" claim vs the inflation times on the CE test certificate for the four TT samples . But that's getting geeky :lol:
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